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#271580 - 2018-01-09 15:36 Meridian UHD722 Trade-up promotion announced
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Hi All,

Details starting to emerge on a trade-up promotion for existing HD621 customers wishing to upgrade to the UHD722.

UHD722 Trade-in Promotion on Meridian Website

Meridian UHD722 Datasheet (provisional)

More to follow

Rick


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#271581 - 2018-01-09 15:53 Re: Meridian UHD722 Trade-up promotion announced [Re: AudioImages - Rick]
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#271582 - 2018-01-09 16:22 Re: Meridian UHD722 Trade-up promotion announced [Re: VirusKiller]
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It appears that the amount offered will be down to the individual dealer. Best guess, based on ticket price of £2,000?

£600?


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#271584 - 2018-01-09 16:32 Re: Meridian UHD722 Trade-up promotion announced [Re: AudioImages - Rick]
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Update on pricing...

The UHD722 will retail for £2,000 inc VAT.
Against this an HD621 will fetch £500 as a trade-in, making the balance to swap £1,500.

Stocks are expected towards the end of February, and will be supplied on a first-come first-served basis.
Please contact your Meridian Dealer to secure your place in the list!

Cheers,

Rick


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#271590 - 2018-01-09 17:24 Re: Meridian UHD722 Trade-up promotion announced [Re: AudioImages - Rick]
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Ouch! At half that I may be tempted......

I can't really see what value this adds that can't be achieved at a significantly lower cost elsewhere. The HD621 added functionality and value to what were at the time current processors whereas this just upgrades HDMI 1.4 to 2.0 for what can only now be considered to be legacy processors. What am I missing here as a current Meridian processor and HD621 owner?

At that price if I wanted to keep my DSPs why wouldn't I just sell my G61RSL/HD621 combination and add the £1500 and not too much £ on top and get something like a spanking new Marantz AV7704 with a 271? Surely for not much extra I would gain a whole lot more functionality, including access to things like Atmos, and actually have current support from the manufacturers. Value for money just seems to be much lower than when the HD621 was launched given the current environment.

Can anyone convince me otherwise?

Cheer,

Anthony.


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#271591 - 2018-01-09 18:11 Re: Meridian UHD722 Trade-up promotion announced [Re: Anthony-Howard]
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It is a 4k solution for the HD621 and nothing more.


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#271595 - 2018-01-09 19:57 Re: Meridian UHD722 Trade-up promotion announced [Re: Anthony-Howard]
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Anthony

Assuming you can comprehend that other people may want to keep their 861s and Gxx (Do you need to go from Digital to analogue and back to digital again in your suggested scenario?) then that would be a reason. This is a niche product that won't be benefiting from economies of scale. Yes its expensive. How much cheaper would you like it to be?

Are you going to buy the Marantz?

Cheers
Tom


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#271597 - 2018-01-09 20:49 Re: Meridian UHD722 Trade-up promotion announced [Re: GMT]
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i'd like it to be $750 w/ trade in. i know, i know, that's a shockingly cheap price in the M-verse, and yet it's still a lot in the real world given what it actually does (in 2018) given what's out there.


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#271598 - 2018-01-09 20:49 Re: Meridian UHD722 Trade-up promotion announced [Re: GMT]
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Originally Posted By GMT
Anthony

Assuming you can comprehend that other people may want to keep their 861s and Gxx (Do you need to go from Digital to analogue and back to digital again in your suggested scenario?) then that would be a reason. This is a niche product that won't be benefiting from economies of scale. Yes its expensive. How much cheaper would you like it to be?

Are you going to buy the Marantz?

Cheers
Tom


Not quite sure why the hostility but I will indulge you.

I can completely understand why someone may want to keep their existing Meridian processor. However I suggest that there are much more cost effective or value for money ways of incorporating HDMI 2.0 sources into an existing setup that already has an HD621. I suspect that most people who would be interested in a UHD722 already have an HD621.

I don't see how economies of scale are relevant when the important point is value for money. Any added cost of such a solution have as much to do with architectural decisions as anything else. As to price. Well £1000-1250 would seem reasonable with a final £750-1000 upgrade price. But reasonable is all subjective.

Of course I need to go from Digital to analogue and back to digital if I am to keep my DSPs. Can you comprehend why I may want to keep my existing DSPs???

It isn't my suggested scenario so much as Meridians. As to my purchasing decisions I don't feel obliged to comment but as I contended earlier I would get much more for my money (Including 7x HDMI 2.0 in and 2x out) if I sold my G61RSL/HD621 combination added the £1500 to the proceeds and then topped it up by £x. Unless the resale of the G61RSL/HD621 is next to nothing or the 271 is disproportionately expensive then that £x gets me a lot of value in my opinion. All I would then need to enjoy the new 3D formats would be 4x DSP320s.

In any case I asked a fair question if I was missing something and I now have my answer.

Many thanks,

Anthony.


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#271599 - 2018-01-09 20:53 Re: Meridian UHD722 Trade-up promotion announced [Re: Anthony-Howard]
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the resale value of any G series plus HD621 is abysmal; one only has to take gander at my eBay/restaurant listing to confirm (current bid is $450 for a mint g68d with a few days to go).

in other words, you don't buy electronics expecting to not incur tremendous depreciation and the higher the high end, the greater the losses, esp in ultra-niche brands.

sad, but true.


edit: don't feel bad bc you could have bought an 861v1 in like 1997 for $20k, which in today's inflation adjusted world is like over $40k! and then you would have updated it up to 3 times and good luck unloading it for $2k in 2018 dollars cry grin laugh

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#271600 - 2018-01-09 21:36 Re: Meridian UHD722 Trade-up promotion announced [Re: Anthony-Howard]
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Originally Posted By Anthony-Howard
Not quite sure why the hostility but I will indulge you.
Apologies Anthony - I've been reading a number of messages on forums recently where there seems to be a threat of dumping a product/ not purchasing a subscription because there individual need isn't being met (as if it applies to everyone) - in this case not being able to see why other people would want this product regardless of the price. Its been grating for a while and you got the grumpy response.

Originally Posted By Anthony-Howard
I can completely understand why someone may want to keep their existing Meridian processor. However I suggest that there are much more cost effective or value for money ways of incorporating HDMI 2.0 sources into an existing setup that already has an HD621. I suspect that most people who would be interested in a UHD722 already have an HD621.

I don't see how economies of scale are relevant when the important point is value for money. Any added cost of such a solution have as much to do with architectural decisions as anything else. As to price. Well £1000-1250 would seem reasonable with a final £750-1000 upgrade price. But reasonable is all subjective.
We buy low volume hardware - R&D and custom components have a high overhead that isn't going to be covered by a small number of sales, so either you have an expensive product or no product for current processors.

Originally Posted By Anthony-Howard
Of course I need to go from Digital to analogue and back to digital if I am to keep my DSPs. Can you comprehend why I may want to keep my existing DSPs???
I can comprehend why you might want to keep your DSPs, speaking for myself, I wouldn't want to compromise my system by doing this. It feels like its defeating the object of having a digital system. Maybe the majority of people feel the same way.

Originally Posted By Anthony-Howard
It isn't my suggested scenario so much as Meridians. As to my purchasing decisions I don't feel obliged to comment but as I contended earlier I would get much more for my money (Including 7x HDMI 2.0 in and 2x out) if I sold my G61RSL/HD621 combination added the £1500 to the proceeds and then topped it up by £x. Unless the resale of the G61RSL/HD621 is next to nothing or the 271 is disproportionately expensive then that £x gets me a lot of value in my opinion. All I would then need to enjoy the new 3D formats would be 4x DSP320s.

In any case I asked a fair question if I was missing something and I now have my answer.
I can see why this could be seen as a good alternative and I'm sure that it would still sound good.

Cheers
Tom


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#271607 - 2018-01-09 22:16 Re: Meridian UHD722 Trade-up promotion announced [Re: GMT]
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Originally Posted By GMT
I can comprehend why you might want to keep your DSPs, speaking for myself, I wouldn't want to compromise my system by doing this. It feels like its defeating the object of having a digital system. Maybe the majority of people feel the same way.
In what way would I be compromising my existing system?

It does seem to defeat the object but it is the only relatively affordable solution (Or at least affordable to me) that Meridian are offering unless they would rather I get rid of my entire Meridian system. It isn't ideal but if I want 3D audio then it is only really a compromise when compared to Trinnov/Datasat/Storm and the compromise carries a sizeable cost benefit. Besides which what I lose in an added DA/AD conversion I might gain from other things such as Audyssey and DSD support. Even if it doesn't sound any better, and I would be happy with just as good, I gain a whole lot of added functionality. I suspect that not many people are in a position yet to be able to compare absolute sound quality between the two approaches though. Meridian certainly seem happy to put their name beside such a solution and demonstrate it accordingly.

I do however suspect that even if something like a Marantz was just a stopgap until a more affordable all digital solution comes along that such a solution is much more likely to come from another manufacturer in combination with a 271 than from an all Meridian system. In that sense I see the 271 as having greater longevity than a UHD722 which certainly gives it more appeal from a cost point of view. If only Meridian were to offer a similar HD621 to 271 trade.......

In any case this is veering from the topic of this thread somewhat.

Many thanks,

Anthony.


Sources: MS600, G98DH, Oppo BDP-93, HTPC, Roon
Processors: G61RSL, HD621, Lumagen 4020
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