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#271040 - 2017-12-24 16:18 Re: What if tidal goes bust.... [Re: Mr_Sukebe]
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Originally Posted By Mr_Sukebe
Unfortunately, a certain vocal element who frequent the hi-fi forums don't share my view and have been spreading vitriol for a couple of years now. Say it enough times and some people will believe you.

I'd love to see MQA standing up to these comments and questions directly, as most are just rubbish and could/should be easily put to bed by the group with the right answers. I'm amazed that it's not been forthcoming.
There has been some response, most notably Bob's big Q&A on computeraudiophile.com. Don't get me wrong, I would like a *lot* more information from MQA Ltd.; but the simple truth is that we now live in a world where fake news and distrust of experts are endemic. Bob can respond again and again, but that won't stop those with vested interests (boutique PCM studios and providers of audiophile DSP), trolls, idiot bloggers, and their followers finding some angle and promulgating falsehoods. Unfortunately, debate over genuine concerns surrounding MQA technology (for example, the audibility of aliasing) is completely drowned out in the maelstrom of MQA hate.

In 5, 10, 20 years time, we'll wonder what all the fuss was about. IMO, and to paraphrase Sun Tzu, by the time MQA was launched (went to war), the victory (winning over the artists, recording engineers, and studios) had already been won behind closed doors. There was never going to be a repeat of the DVDA/SACD/MP3 "mistake". Audiofools can shout until they're blue in the face, but their opinion matters little.


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#271042 - 2017-12-24 16:39 Re: What if tidal goes bust.... [Re: VirusKiller]
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Thank you VK
I will cancel my Spotify subscription and rely on the future success of MQA and Tidal.
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#271044 - 2017-12-24 16:51 Re: What if tidal goes bust.... [Re: VirusKiller]
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Very well put Joel.

There may be a few HH members here still who were on the HH visit when the F80 was revealed.

This was well before MQA but Bob did make a curious statement, with a twinkle in his eye, in the open floor Q&A that “not all lossless was the same”. An odd thing to say to the group who were all “experts” with their FLAC files and squeezeboxes.

During a visit to HQ where we were actively trying to develop relations and features for this site, whilst waiting for Paul, a certain Mr Craven who was also in reception, asked if we “were from Warner”.

All this was well before MQA emerged.

The work that has gone into MQA is far, far more than we see. The key battles were indeed played out well before the anti-mob ever heard of it.


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#271046 - 2017-12-24 17:12 Re: What if tidal goes bust.... [Re: ncpl]
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Peter Craven was at my father’s 60th birthday party and talked about his work on finding the important information in a high resolution audio stream. My dad is now 71. That’s a lot of man hours going into MQA.


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#271048 - 2017-12-24 17:29 Re: What if tidal goes bust.... [Re: Ludwig]
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FWIW, I'm not saying that it's going to be plain sailing in the world of streaming: clearly none of the current streaming services appears to have a profitable business model, nor one which distributes royalties equitably (i.e. smaller artists getting their share). That said, Verizon only recently bought a third of TIDAL for $200M, so there is vested interest from at least one very large corporate in TIDAL's future.


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#271054 - 2017-12-24 20:44 Re: What if tidal goes bust.... [Re: Ludwig]
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I nearly mentioned that family link Ludwig but thought I would leave that for you 😀


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#271354 - 2018-01-02 21:55 Re: What if tidal goes bust.... [Re: ncpl]
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#271762 - 2018-01-13 09:09 Re: What if tidal goes bust.... [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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#271767 - 2018-01-13 09:35 Re: What if tidal goes bust.... [Re: JaapJan]
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thanks for posting that.


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#271776 - 2018-01-13 10:25 Re: What if tidal goes bust.... [Re: Ian]
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Very interesting reading
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