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#270879 - 2017-12-19 17:27 Roon Does MQA
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My understanding is that the latest Roon update now does MQA.

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#270881 - 2017-12-19 17:31 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: spinaltap]
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If you can find it in the release notes. I can’t.

Roon 1.4 release notes


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#270882 - 2017-12-19 17:49 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: spinaltap]
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Originally Posted By spinaltap
My understanding is that the latest Roon update now does MQA.
What did you read that led you to that conclusion?


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#270886 - 2017-12-19 19:12 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: Ratbert]
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From the MQA Developments Facebook page...
Quote:
Roon brings DSD and MQA to Apple iOS in new version Roon 1.4🎄


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#270889 - 2017-12-19 19:40 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: spinaltap]
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"Does" and "brings" are not the same grin

The facts are clear in the Roon 1.4 Release Notes (already posted)


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#270892 - 2017-12-19 22:34 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: spinaltap]
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spinaltap,

What this means is that Roon will deliver a bit perfect MQA stream to an iOS device, but will not perform any of the MQA "unfolds." That is still left to the recipient device (DAC) in the Roon world. The new thing here is that Roon allows an iOS device to be a recipient (which was not possible prior to 1.4).

Still, pretty great.


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#270899 - 2017-12-20 08:53 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: Akimo]
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Hopefully MQA decode won't be too long. In the meantime, I'm loving the new volume control slider.


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#270954 - 2017-12-21 20:43 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: Cliff.]
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We were first told about "coming soon" back in Jan 2016. Was supposed to have been added as part of an update to 1.3. Can't say I'm particularly hopeful.


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#270958 - 2017-12-21 21:37 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: Mr_Sukebe]
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Originally Posted By Mr_Sukebe
We were first told about "coming soon" back in Jan 2016. Was supposed to have been added as part of an update to 1.3.
You may find the second half of this post relevant.


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#270970 - 2017-12-22 10:04 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: VirusKiller]
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Are you able to say whether there will be a specific 'MQA update version' or that we'll have to wait for Roon 1.5?


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#270971 - 2017-12-22 11:55 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: Cliff.]
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We will deliver the MQA update as soon as we can. Whether it's called 1.5, who knows... In general, we're attempting to make more frequent smaller releases, because these are much more manageable from a development and test perspective.


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#271541 - 2018-01-08 16:31 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: VirusKiller]
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MQA announce Roon partnership see the Our Partners tab then scroll to the bottom where you will find Service Partners > Media Players.


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Edited by Ratbert; 2018-01-08 16:35.
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#271549 - 2018-01-08 19:10 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: Ratbert]
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So no Meridian digital equipment only the 251 amp ....


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#271566 - 2018-01-08 23:27 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: RobertW]
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Why do you say that? Do you mean for Roon/MQA or no new Meridian equipment in general will be announced at CES?
Cheers
Tom


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#271571 - 2018-01-09 07:06 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: GMT]
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Hi Tom,

In the link from Ratbert I only found the 251 announced nothing else.

I also waiting/expecting a Roon Ready and MQA unfold card for the 861, but time will come.


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#271573 - 2018-01-09 08:45 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: RobertW]
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Hi Robert

I think the link was to MQA not Meridian and I don't think M would choose to announce a new product via an MQA webpage. Not that I know any different though!

Cheers
Tom


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#274694 - 2018-04-01 19:15 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: VirusKiller]
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VK,

When you say Roon will deliver MQA, can you explain more? Do you mean just pass through, partial unfolding, full unfolding...

How will this differ from using Tidal within Roon now?

I’m about to buy some SE speakers and trying to figure out the cheapest way to feed them full MQA. A 218?

Thanks,

Rick


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#274696 - 2018-04-01 19:19 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: Rick415]
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Roon already passes through MQA. The change will be that Roon will do the first unfold.


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#274698 - 2018-04-01 20:38 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: Rick415]
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A 218 is the cheapest way to feed MQA to SE speakers and get full MQA.


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#274700 - 2018-04-01 21:07 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: JobSeeker]
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Jobseeker,

How will this be different than Tidal+Roon now?

The Tidal desktop application does the first unfolding. Then the question is whether it still does this when using Tidal+Roon now...

Cheers,

Rick


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#274701 - 2018-04-01 21:11 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Bruce, the SE’s can’t do the unfolding/decoding themselves?


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#274702 - 2018-04-01 21:18 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: Rick415]
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That’s true, however, the 218 can decode MQA.


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#274704 - 2018-04-01 21:40 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: Rick415]
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No, they cannot. You need a 818v3, 808v6, or 218 to get full MQA. Part of the process is done in the 218, 818v3, or 808v6, then the rest is done in the SE speakers.


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#274705 - 2018-04-01 21:53 Re: Roon Does MQA [Re: Ratbert]
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Ok, thanks all.

So much for my budget... grin


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