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#269671 - 2017-11-10 12:58 Discussion on selling in the Restaurant
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I just wanted to say the following was split from a post in the restaurant in response to someone saying he had had no interest in his items for sale and only had 'tyre kickers'........






I always put what price I would 'like' in the thread, that way people know where I am at and know whether to offer or not. I also sell it all really quickly too.

You have something I might be interested in, however, without knowing what you think it is worth I can only become a tyre kicker as I have to PM you to find out. wink


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#269673 - 2017-11-10 13:13 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: gIzzE]
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Not sure a pm to simply ask price would describe you as a tyre kicker.


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#269676 - 2017-11-10 13:41 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: MI']
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I would hope not, but you never know, just read the threads on Pistonheads on what people class tyre kickers as!

A tyre kicker in hifi is someone who comes round, listens to your gear and then says "I have 3 other speakers I need to listen to that are in my budget, thanks for letting me hear these, good bye." (Happened to me a couple of months back).
I get the feeling that has not happened.

Everyone knows what they want for their gear, I don't understand why you would not put that price in with what you are selling.

Not many shops hide the prices, there is a reason for that.

Look on autotrader all the cars have the asking price, and some are priced well and some seriously overpriced, but it gives you an idea of whether to make contact or not.

Most forums I use 'only' allow sales adverts with prices, just seems better for people all round. Stops the seller getting annoyed with what they call low ball offers, and it also gets people making contact if they think it is a good price.

I know what I got for my SW1600, and I know what I would want to pay for another one, but with a HHker saying he had 'unrealistic responses' to his previous advert for it, and saying he has had nothing but tyre kickers means I will just presume we are no where near what each other thinks it is worth.

It was only a bit of friendly advice, as he has some really desirable bits in there.

Anyway, I have probably pissed everyone off as usual, so I will clear off. wink


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#269690 - 2017-11-10 16:05 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: gIzzE]
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Hi, I don't frequent other forums much. I am, however, aware that AV Forums is a bear pit.

Having PM's does remove from this site the pitiful haggling I have seen on AV Forums.

You ask a price BY PM, then you decide if you wish to proceed at that price or negotiate (a little)

I am certainly not upset by your comments smile

Regards I


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#269700 - 2017-11-10 17:13 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: MI']
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We are going OT from the original FS but by someone not sure what a fair price is, they don't risk lowballing both themselves nor other future sellers when a couple of private PM's will soon ascertain whether both parties are likely to make the sale.

On more than one occasion I would say that someone either wanting a quick sale or just not knowing or caring for the market has shifted the market by more than natural supply and demand. So by choosing not to advertise a price, you don't risk putting yourself in that position.


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#269702 - 2017-11-10 17:38 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: gIzzE]
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I too would prefer it this way.


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#269703 - 2017-11-10 17:38 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: Ian]
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I'm not saying don't make offers or make contact by PM, just an indication of price on the thread is a good thing and helps you sell your gear quickly.

I often buy stuff I wasn't even considering when I see it at a good price.


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#269712 - 2017-11-10 22:46 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: gIzzE]
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I can see both sides of this discussion. Maybe there is a way that we could come up with a pricing guide so that everyone can get a ballpark figure based on sales trends?

I also think negotiations should be kept off public forums.


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#269713 - 2017-11-10 23:25 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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A published guide price makes an offer more attractive however I don't think it should be mandated.

There is more to buying and selling than price and condition; simple transactions with easy payment, postage, collection or delivery, and good communications contribute to flexibility on price when buying and selling.

Long standing membership of this forum has, for me, proven to be a reliable guide as to how quick and easy a transaction will be.


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#269714 - 2017-11-11 00:05 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: Gianni]
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I think a good advert should include a decent description, that covers age and condition, and ideally decent photos, along with a price, which can of course say whether they want to listen to offers or pretty firm.

All offers and negotiating can be done privately.

Although, often you see "PM Sent regarding......." and you then you don't know whether they are negotiating or what is happening, so an update to the thread would help to say if it is sold, on hold, still for sale etc. would be good.

All this started as a HHker has some really nice kit up for sale, which he has had advertised for a while now, and I do genuinely think they would have sold if prices had been attached.

Sometimes I don't want to PM someone, and get their hopes up for a sale, if I simply considering having a change around but not 100% what direction to go yet, but seeing something and seeing the price often gets me doing a bit of man maths and pulling the trigger, and I am sure many on here are the same?

I just think if you're selling something, the most important thing to put is the price.


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#269776 - 2017-11-13 11:19 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: gIzzE]
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I agree with Guy. I'm immediately put off contacting a seller when the price is POA/missing. That said, this forum is a little different to most... more niche, quiet and I think more gentlemanly, if that makes any sense. Buying my 3100s from Altus was a perfect example of how lovely this place is to trade.


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#269785 - 2017-11-13 14:11 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: Chris G]
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I totally agree, every single trade I have done on here has been brilliant, everyone I have met have been great.

I just know that when selling kit, adding a price sells it far quicker.

You have to remember that many won't have a clue what the current value of used kit is.

When I sold my DSP5200s I originally didn't put a price as I was not sure I wanted to really let them go, if someone had come along and offered me more than I would have wanted I would have let them go, I had one enquiry over a few weeks.

When I did decided to sell them I put the price in the new advert, £1950 for the pair, that was on the Saturday morning, and I had 4 people wanting to buy them by the time I logged back in again on the Monday to have a look.
Quick sale, full asking, sold quickly.
The buyer said he had didn't realise the early 5200s could be had for that price.


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#269998 - 2017-11-17 19:44 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: gIzzE]
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I agree, I don't understand why some folks don't put prices.

If people don't put a price I assume they probably want too much and I typically won't bother to ask.

Folks generally know their prices on the forum and if you price it at the market value on your listing, it's likely to move quickly.

Also if something is priced way out of line (too high or too low) sometimes a PM from a non interested party might send them a dose of reality.
I know I have on occasion and been thanked for the information.

If you really are not gonna get close to $$$ maybe you should not sell it.

Also it puzzles me why so many want to sell their whole system as a whole. 99% of the folks here already have a system and want to typically upgrade parts of their system.
And if someone does buy everything they expect more discount because they are buying multiple items, less work for the seller. But I think some sellers think the system has more value when complete. It's not a car. It's a combination of components YOU chose to put together. What are the chances of someone coming to the board having nothing and the funds to buy everything and it's exactly the combination of components they wanted. About 0.001% chance.


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#270004 - 2017-11-17 21:14 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: Fiddler]
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Originally Posted By Fiddler
What are the chances of someone coming to the board having nothing and the funds to buy everything and it's exactly the combination of components they wanted. About 0.001% chance.
That made me laugh twice George, once in agreement and then the second time because I was the idiot that bought 5 M33s a 561 and an M1500 because it was a good deal and all I wanted was a pair of M33s! (still have 2 M33s M1500 and 561)!

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#270094 - 2017-11-21 13:48 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: GMT]
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Dear Gizze et al,

I stated I had tyre kickers when putting my kit up for sale & did not qualify that statement - My apologies. I had interested parties outside of HH'ers forum, who showed an interest & so a dialogue with prices & further information was established.
They came & listened, made conditional offers. Which then never manifested to a sale.

Hence the situation. I was reluctant to put the prices on there, well because usually I don't know the true value apart from asking re-sellers - which end up quite optimistic.

I have sold kit here on the forum on many occasions no issues. I noticed that showing prices may be a cultural thing, as the Brits don't usually state them & our cousins from across the pond do!

More than happy to put prices down chaps!

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#270100 - 2017-11-21 18:00 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: AudioAero]
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Now that is a proper tyre kicker!!! Haha

I had it when I was selling some Quad Z3 speakers recently, someone insisted on coming on the Sunday when I had already explained I was busy, but thought a sale is a sale, so stayed at home which didn't go down well with the missus (a family do) and then when he finished listening to them offered me a grand for them.

This was for a pair of 3 week old speakers that were £2500 that I had said £1500 (advertised at £1700) with no offers.

He then said "Oh well, at least I got to hear them properly, I will now have to go and find someone that will do them for me in budget."



You have got some cracking kit up for sale mate. I guess I was just surprised it hasn't been snapped up yet.


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#270732 - 2017-12-14 21:44 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: gIzzE]
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Just seen this thread. It looks like something's been lost / deleted from the original post...


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#270735 - 2017-12-14 22:23 Re: Discussion on selling in the Restaurant [Re: Not'arf]
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It was in relation to averts in the 'for sale' section with no prices, it was split from Audioaero's sales thread with some cracking items in it but not much interest.

I see he added prices this morning and had numerous PMs since then. wink



Just said it seems a strange way to try and sell something, not having a price.


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