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#268229 - 2017-10-02 22:53 Meridan 861 processor with Roon and Trinnov
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I need some help here as I don't know which manufacture is able to help.

I have the 861/ID40 in a 7.0 setup and have the Trinnov Amethyst integrated in my audio chain also with a 218 for Roon/Tidal.

My Roon Core is a MacBook and can be also the remote, but as a standard I use the iPad. I have one modem/router in the cellar and go upstairs to one switch where the 861/ID40 the 218 and the Trinnov is connected. Wireless communication goes over the router in the cellar.

Audio flows are:
1) Roon/Tidal >> 218(SL out) >> (SL in) 861 (SL out - speakers) >> (XLRin) Trinnov (XLR TO SL) >> DSP (right).

Similar to Left DSP and Center so three CAT cables to the front. The Mcomms and 232 are done with adapter cables and Reviver for RCA (Center channel).

With the Amethyst I made a 3.0 layout (don't need a sub), the side and rears are get out from the 861 (**).

2) Roon/Tidal >> 861/ID40 -- the remaining is like 1)

It is a little complicated but I work on a easy/simple solution for all the hassle of the wiring.

(**) The fronts get delayed through processing of the Trinnov, so I have to add my home built delay solution later on.

That's just to understand for my questions.

Now Roon see the Trinnov as one of the zones in my audio network, the others are the 218 and ID40 (thanks Rick here for the rescue).

In the Roon application under "Settings/audio" where you see the audio zones there is the choice for each zone to edit the "device setup".

The Trinnov offers here under the "playback" sheet the point "Channel layout". So a stereo source can be upmixed to more channels. However, when I select that the Trinnov still outputs two channels.

So the questions here is:

Which system needs to enable this: Meridian, Trinnov or Roon?


861v6+ID40/800v3/3x8k.2/3x5k5s smile /2x5kC/ 218/Explorer/TT-ELP/Trinnov Amethyst
__HB-strip, Ayon/HB/Shunyata/Dream State Audio/Miltzow -- power cables,
__Ayon/Jungson/Miltzow --analog, Miltzow-- digital,
__WMA/Finalizer- , iPad air, Macbook-pro.
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#268234 - 2017-10-03 06:59 Re: Meridan 861 processor with Roon and Trinnov [Re: RobertW]
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It has to be the Trinnov, since you have selected that as your zone in Roon no music should be being sent to either of the M products.


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#268236 - 2017-10-03 07:24 Re: Meridan 861 processor with Roon and Trinnov [Re: RobertW]
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Is there a multichannel DSP you can select in the Trinnov?


Main: G68J, 218 HD621, 3*5200s (2 SE L&R),DSW, 2* Reviver, 3200s,SBT, PS4, Amazon TV Fire, Dune Base 3.0, Xbox, NUC (Roon server & Kodi)
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#268237 - 2017-10-03 07:40 Re: Meridan 861 processor with Roon and Trinnov [Re: GMT]
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If it's like the Altitude, you have to assign a speaker layout preset to the source. I use the Auro-3D upmixer - I'm not sure what's available on the Amethyst.


Main system - Sources (Kodi-HTPC, Vero 4k, FireTV, Sat) into Trinnov Altitude 32 (8-16) (+Roon), Trinnov Amplitude 8 amp & Vivid Audio (Giya G3, V1.5) and REL Stentor III speakers. Others: F80 + Raspberry Pi and other Pi systems.
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#268244 - 2017-10-03 09:31 Re: Meridan 861 processor with Roon and Trinnov [Re: dpstjp]
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Thanks, have to think over (to less coffee right now wink )


861v6+ID40/800v3/3x8k.2/3x5k5s smile /2x5kC/ 218/Explorer/TT-ELP/Trinnov Amethyst
__HB-strip, Ayon/HB/Shunyata/Dream State Audio/Miltzow -- power cables,
__Ayon/Jungson/Miltzow --analog, Miltzow-- digital,
__WMA/Finalizer- , iPad air, Macbook-pro.
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#268247 - 2017-10-03 09:53 Re: Meridan 861 processor with Roon and Trinnov [Re: GMT]
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Yes as posted 2.0 5.1 and 7.1

I would like to insert a screen shot on my post, but can't find a way even following the "forum help". What are the restrictions on here and how I can made that?

The file is on my HD, not on the web.

Robert


861v6+ID40/800v3/3x8k.2/3x5k5s smile /2x5kC/ 218/Explorer/TT-ELP/Trinnov Amethyst
__HB-strip, Ayon/HB/Shunyata/Dream State Audio/Miltzow -- power cables,
__Ayon/Jungson/Miltzow --analog, Miltzow-- digital,
__WMA/Finalizer- , iPad air, Macbook-pro.
Reviver
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#268249 - 2017-10-03 10:05 Re: Meridan 861 processor with Roon and Trinnov [Re: RobertW]
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Upload it to the Gallery then use the URL from the Gallery to post to the forum.


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#268251 - 2017-10-03 10:19 Re: Meridan 861 processor with Roon and Trinnov [Re: dpstjp]
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Thanks, that was to simple... blush

link to Gallery


861v6+ID40/800v3/3x8k.2/3x5k5s smile /2x5kC/ 218/Explorer/TT-ELP/Trinnov Amethyst
__HB-strip, Ayon/HB/Shunyata/Dream State Audio/Miltzow -- power cables,
__Ayon/Jungson/Miltzow --analog, Miltzow-- digital,
__WMA/Finalizer- , iPad air, Macbook-pro.
Reviver
Edited by RobertW; 2017-10-03 12:02.
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#268253 - 2017-10-03 10:20 Re: Meridan 861 processor with Roon and Trinnov [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Originally Posted By ChrisLayerUK
That won’t work with iOS 11 on iPad

Sorry, what you mean here ?


861v6+ID40/800v3/3x8k.2/3x5k5s smile /2x5kC/ 218/Explorer/TT-ELP/Trinnov Amethyst
__HB-strip, Ayon/HB/Shunyata/Dream State Audio/Miltzow -- power cables,
__Ayon/Jungson/Miltzow --analog, Miltzow-- digital,
__WMA/Finalizer- , iPad air, Macbook-pro.
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#268262 - 2017-10-03 13:08 Re: Meridan 861 processor with Roon and Trinnov [Re: RobertW]
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After much struggling Ian helped me out with this. I have to copy the link into the thread then edit Jpeg to jpg for each image.
This added to the already complex system makes adding pictures to the forum a chore.

The results can look great though. See my latest unfinished Little Rabbit Barn post. What with pictures and italics, it’s not easy.
Chris


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#268265 - 2017-10-03 14:10 Re: Meridan 861 processor with Roon and Trinnov [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Thanks Chris got it.


861v6+ID40/800v3/3x8k.2/3x5k5s smile /2x5kC/ 218/Explorer/TT-ELP/Trinnov Amethyst
__HB-strip, Ayon/HB/Shunyata/Dream State Audio/Miltzow -- power cables,
__Ayon/Jungson/Miltzow --analog, Miltzow-- digital,
__WMA/Finalizer- , iPad air, Macbook-pro.
Reviver
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#268266 - 2017-10-03 14:14 Re: Meridan 861 processor with Roon and Trinnov [Re: RobertW]
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UPDATE:

After i emailed Trinnov they say that ROON is responseable for that two items.
So no issue with Meridian equipment or sw.
Also MCh can be played now i choose a 5.1 layout, but have just wird the three fronts at the moments. Incredible good sound, i have to say.
Also the app have more features what i have zto discover.
The external volume control is a still open point.


861v6+ID40/800v3/3x8k.2/3x5k5s smile /2x5kC/ 218/Explorer/TT-ELP/Trinnov Amethyst
__HB-strip, Ayon/HB/Shunyata/Dream State Audio/Miltzow -- power cables,
__Ayon/Jungson/Miltzow --analog, Miltzow-- digital,
__WMA/Finalizer- , iPad air, Macbook-pro.
Reviver
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