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#265749 - 2017-07-08 11:15 Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it?
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In what ways is Roon currently considered better or worse than Sooloos with Meridian Sooloos hardware? This is currently 818v3 and MC200. N.B. control is with an iPad or iPhone.

Interested in all aspects, but of particular interest to me personally -

- handling of classical collections (and particularly whether Roon handles these better without user intervention than Sooloos)
- as above with compilation albums
- Tidal integration
- robustness and stability
- slickness and responsiveness of GUI and control of Meridian hardware though iPad, etc.

Sure there are plenty more I haven't thought of. Downsides welcome and useful too!

Many thanks!


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#265751 - 2017-07-08 15:32 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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Roon requires 64 bit iPad for control, Sooloos will work with most.


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#265752 - 2017-07-08 16:00 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Ian]
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Useful to know! Mines an iPad Air, but I have no idea whether that's 64-bit or not?


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#265757 - 2017-07-08 20:22 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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64 bit.

On all your measures, Roon is superior or equal to Sooloos. I finally made the move about 4 months ago. Stability and ease of setup - better and easier than Sooloos IMO.


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#265758 - 2017-07-08 20:25 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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I'd say yes ... I really like the interface and the extended metadata. However, it's not perfect (yet) and not for everyone, it's quite a personal decision.

My advice is to take advantage of a Roon trial ... most modern computers running Windows or OSX can run Roon with a GUI and Linux i3, i5, i7 devices can run the (headless) Roon Server. (Note, having the Roon DB on a SSD makes it snappier to use.)

I would strongly recommend not to just point Roon at the audio files on the MC200 (as those files if ripped by Sooloos are not tagged), you will get better Roon album identification results results by first performing a Sooloos native export (which imbeds the tags and creates the expected .../artist/album/dd_tt_track.format folder/file structure) and then set Roon up to watch that export.

Your iPad Air is fine see ... FAQ: What models of iPhone and iPad can I use Roon with?.

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#265761 - 2017-07-08 21:54 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Carl]
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This old curmudgeon is still happy with Sooloos and it is hard to teach an old dog new tricks. Improved Metadata is not my concern, only occasionally a nice to have.

Maybe Roon one day.

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#265763 - 2017-07-08 22:32 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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Couple of tips:

iPad:
You need a Roon Core running for the iPad app to do anything - but there's nothing stopping anyone from downloading to see if it works - if the iPad is not compatible, the App Store should stop you from even downloading it.

'Server'
If you are planning on trying a Roon trial - getting everything setup in advance will give you more time to play later.

i.e. setup a machine with enough space to hold your Sooloos connection, install Control:PC and setup a native export.

Once the export is complete, try adding something to Sooloos and making sure the new files pop-up on your Roon test machine.

Then - when you start the trial, you can keep Roon in parallel with Sooloos - with anything added to Sooloos appearing in Roon (I run Sooloos on a QNAP NAS, with Roon installed on an Advantech UTC-520C machine (SSD sysdisk / 4TB storage with an Explorer attached) - mainly use Sooloos though, the Roon machine occasionally gets used away from home).

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#265766 - 2017-07-09 08:53 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: MattF]
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Thanks guys. All useful info and tips.

I will download and have a play I think. Now I'm using Tidal, I think even superior integration of that would be worth the admission price to Roon.


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#265768 - 2017-07-09 09:42 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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Sooloos is great, but if you have a serious classical collection Roon is far superior.

The work lists (listing all works by each composer in your collection) and composition detail pages (which list all performances you have of each work) are alone worth the price of admission.

I'll do some screen shots when I get home.


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#265769 - 2017-07-09 10:55 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Ludwig]
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That does sound much better. A screenshot or two would be great if you have a moment, thank you!


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#265869 - 2017-07-12 20:05 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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Be prepared to listen to lots of music while trying to sort out your album tags tired

Roon still has a lot of room to develop yet. Ive been advised of several different methods to correct Roon's destroying my Bowie/Lennon/Floyd/Zeppelin/Beatles boxsets and compilations albums and none of them have worked.

At least Sooloos didn't turn a 100 track acoustic collection into 100 individual albums. If it can't identify it, it just keeps your own edits.

A great thing with Roon though is Multichannel /DSD / playback.

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#265871 - 2017-07-12 21:21 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Meridialien]
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Hm, that doesn't sound too great. I think I'll have to use the free trial and just see how much pain or gain Roon is to me and my collection.

Here's a question - is there a music cataloging and playback system/software out there which does get these things better, or right (i.e., not just rock/pop, but classical, compilations, etc.). Ideally which offers Tidal integration too?


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#265875 - 2017-07-12 21:54 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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On the other hand, look at these. The first shows part of the work list. Clicking on each work goes to a page which lists performances in whatever order you want. In the worklist the number to the right with the disc over it, is number of performances.

There's nothing like this in Sooloos and it's what you've always been waiting for if you're a classical collector.





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#265876 - 2017-07-12 23:20 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Ludwig]
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Thanks! That's really helpful to see some screenshots of how it actually works in practise. Can I ask if you had to, e.g., manually custom tag things to get it sorted that way, though?

I think one of my concerns is that the lesser handling of classical collections and compilations, etc., which never quite worked for me in Sooloos, but which I was always assured were 'on the roadmap' (I'm still waiting 5 years later, Meridian, if you're listening!) will carry over to Roon, to a degree at least. Posts like yours above give me hope, but then I get concerned when I find threads such as -

http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?20450-Roon-absolutely-sucks-for-classical

The OPs reaction is uncannily similar to mine when I first owned Sooloos, and if someone is now reacting to Roon that way...? Is the OP there just using it wrong, or is Roon just still flawed in organising a classical collection in the way most collectors probably categorise their collection in their library/heads, or is it capable of it only if you have a considerable amount of time to custom tag every album? Does this also affect the integration of Tidal albums added to the Library (on my current free Tidal trial, Sooloos is pretty disastrous when adding classical albums to my library. E.g., I added La Traviata (Pavarotti/Joan Sutherland) and then couldn't find it in browse, which is how I tend to want to find my music, in order like it would be on my shelf as a CD. I clicked V for Verdi - nope. OK I clicked L for La Traviata - nope. P for Pavarotti - nope. S for Sutherland - nope. After much searching (and cursing) I finally found it had placed it under D for Dame (as in Dame Joan Sutherland). Really? Wow. Wheras I'm sure almost 100% of classical collectors brains would go Verdi->La Traviata->Principle Artist/Conductor->(Possibly Year). It just worries me that the devs ever thought the other way made any kind of sense (or that they knew it doesn't make sense but never found a way to fix it in Sooloos in however many years). And it's the same people, right?

Anyways, that's Sooloos, but I'm still trying to gauge exactly how many steps forward and back have been taken.


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#265880 - 2017-07-13 07:23 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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We have just had a major update from Roon which will help classical listeners. 1.3 Build 242
MQA is also identified in the signal path along with original file rate.


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#265882 - 2017-07-13 07:42 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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I warn you to be VERY careful of that thread. The one time I read it (completely, but it was some time ago) 90% of the complaints were simply user error and ignorance. Be warned! (Boy, do I hate the internet!)

Roon has a way to go before being the perfect classical product, but from day 1 it blew Sooloos out of the water for classical: largely because of the two views which I posted above. (I know some have perfect Sooloos grooming, but that's only the start.)

The handling of box sets is already more sophisticated in Roon, but there is more coming. For example I've discussed with them having an optional view of the contents of a box set NOT in track order, but in order of composer and work. That will make it much much easier to find the contents of classical boxes.

To get to your difficult question, yes grooming has to be done. And sometimes quite a lot, if you want a perfect view. But out of the box Roon is already doing a great job.


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#265883 - 2017-07-13 08:26 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Ludwig]
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Thanks guys. OK I'm reassured. Chris - what does that update with MQA do, I thought Roon already played that?

Ludwig - ha, yeah, the internet sucks!, right? 😉 I appreciate the clarification that it was mainly ignorance/inexperience on the part of the OP. That does sound like good progress is being made in Roon. Could you give an example of the type of scenario in which Roon requires grooming and in what way you'd do that?

If I export my whole Sooloos library (much of which was tagged in dBpoweramp),is there a 'best practice' or how to... which would help me get things right from the start in terms of getting the type of organisation you have there?


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#265885 - 2017-07-13 11:49 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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Originally Posted By 3dit0r
If I export my whole Sooloos library (much of which was tagged in dBpoweramp)
That's excellent as dBpa typically does a good job.

Originally Posted By 3dit0r
... is there a 'best practice' or how to...
Hi,

This a good start Roon Knowledge Base and search for "Tags".

Honestly, there's only a certain amount of generic advise that can be given ... you just need to go for it and experience Roon for yourself. Then any specific questions on Roon metadata handling that crop up can be addressed (over in the Roon forum).

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#265887 - 2017-07-13 12:10 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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It now displays MQA and the original file rate i.e. 192/24 in the signal path. Also work has been done so Bluesound devices can recognise MQA from Roon. Bluesound have to complete the work now.
What's more important is the fact that this work is being done.


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#265889 - 2017-07-13 12:17 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Originally Posted By ChrisLayerUK
What's more important is the fact that this work is being done.
That's a very good point ... compare the pace of development (and the user interaction) of Roon vs. Sooloos.


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#265894 - 2017-07-13 14:40 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Carl]
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Originally Posted By Carl
Originally Posted By 3dit0r
If I export my whole Sooloos library (much of which was tagged in dBpoweramp)
That's excellent as dBpa typically does a good job.

Originally Posted By 3dit0r
... is there a 'best practice' or how to...
Hi,

This a good start Roon Knowledge Base and search for "Tags".

Honestly, there's only a certain amount of generic advise that can be given ... you just need to go for it and experience Roon for yourself. Then any specific questions on Roon metadata handling that crop up can be addressed (over in the Roon forum).

Regards,
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Thanks for the heads-up towards looking for tags. I've seen them mentioned in places on the Roon Knowledge Base, but still not entirely sure what they are or how to use them. I get your point about generic advice, but this is a good example, I think, of an assumed amount of knowledge to even make sense of discussions on the Knowledge Base which I often don't seem to have. Sometimes, one doesn't know enough to know what questions to ask, if that makes sense? I'm gradually getting a better idea through this thread, though, so thank you to all who are replying.


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#265895 - 2017-07-13 14:43 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Originally Posted By ChrisLayerUK
It now displays MQA and the original file rate i.e. 192/24 in the signal path.
Sorry, Chris, I'm being thick. I still don't know what this means in practice. Do you mean that it displays this next to the track in the GUI when browsing Tidal, or any MQA files you own in your library, so you know what you're going to get in advance, so to speak?


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#265896 - 2017-07-13 14:45 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Carl]
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Originally Posted By Carl
Originally Posted By ChrisLayerUK
What's more important is the fact that this work is being done.
That's a very good point ... compare the pace of development (and the user interaction) of Roon vs. Sooloos.
That is 100% important to me. My biggest concern having been a Sooloos user for many years isn't so much that there were issues, but there seemed to be little to no progress in fixing them. If Roon is continually and actively addressing them and really fixing them, that's pretty much all I need to know right there, I think.


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#265897 - 2017-07-13 16:29 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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Have a quick scan at the Roon Software Release Notes Category, to see the extent and pace of changes and enhancements.


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#265898 - 2017-07-13 16:35 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Carl]
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Originally Posted By Carl
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What's more important is the fact that this work is being done.
That's a very good point ... compare the pace of development (and the user interaction) of Roon vs. Sooloos.

This is absolutely right.

But sorry to say this identifying MQA thing is a bit useless to me, and is certainly not an especially classical feature.

1.3 had a lot of new classical stuff, and development is continuing all the time and at many levels. Also, a lot of improvements have been achieved through development of the Roon metadata service, not even involving new Roon builds.


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It means when you play a file and touch the shiny Dot the file path is revealed showing details.
Here, MQA is listed along with the Original sample rate.

Example. Stevie Nicks new Album is 48/24 MQA

Albert King 'Born under a bad sign' is 192/24 MQA etc


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Originally Posted By Carl
Have a quick scan at the Roon Software Release Notes Category, to see the extent and pace of changes and enhancements.
Thanks. That is indeed very reassuring.


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#265933 - 2017-07-14 14:00 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Ludwig]
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Originally Posted By Ludwig
1.3 had a lot of new classical stuff, and development is continuing all the time and at many levels. Also, a lot of improvements have been achieved through development of the Roon metadata service, not even involving new Roon builds.
If that means it'll work better without user intervention, I'm all for that!


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#265934 - 2017-07-14 14:01 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Originally Posted By ChrisLayerUK
It means when you play a file and touch the shiny Dot the file path is revealed showing details.
Here, MQA is listed along with the Original sample rate.

Example. Stevie Nicks new Album is 48/24 MQA

Albert King 'Born under a bad sign' is 192/24 MQA etc
Got it. Sounds cool!


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#265935 - 2017-07-14 14:02 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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I've read a little about tagging programs, and starting to get an idea (I think!).

So, currently, if I've ripped using, say, dBpoweramp, do I need to then use a separate tagger to add composers, or does it usually populate the correct fields for Roon to read?

Would it be just if I'd originally ripped using Sooloos that I might have to use an external tagger to get those bits right on a classical album, or is this only when the Roon metadata service doesn't recognise an album correctly?


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#265937 - 2017-07-14 14:25 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Carl]
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Originally Posted By Carl
...My advice is to take advantage of a Roon trial...

...I would strongly recommend not to just point Roon at the audio files on the MC200 (as those files if ripped by Sooloos are not tagged), you will get better Roon album identification results results by first performing a Sooloos native export (which imbeds the tags and creates the expected .../artist/album/dd_tt_track.format folder/file structure) and then set Roon up to watch that export...
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As Carl suggested some time ago, run a Sooloos export, start the free trial, point Roon at the export folder and try it out.


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#265946 - 2017-07-15 08:40 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Rolski]
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So I had some time last night and started the free trial, after reading the entire user guide in the KB.

I had a free trial when Roon first came out and wasn't sufficiently impressed to switch from Sooloos. Well, maybe this is because I'm now coming in on 1.3 with the latest updates to the way Classical is handled, but my instant impression, based on a couple of hours of setup and use is that Roon is now leaps and bounds ahead of Sooloos in most ways I've yet tried.

I did make the mistake of checking several tickboxes on initial install to give me suggestions in Tidal for various genres, which I quickly had to find a way to undo, but pointing Roon at a couple of different folders with music in (including my music2 folder on my MC200) was joyfully easy and very fast to pick up and identify most of the albums.

Yes, it's not identified a few albums, but I think some of these were Sooloos rips, rather than dBpoweramp ones. Some weren't identified correctly because I'd manually changed Artist to Composer when ripping/importing, but I found these mostly very easy to correct in Roon by simply changing the Composer back to Artist when searching for the correct album to identify. I can see a few places where it hasn't got multi-disc sets correct, or compilations, even when Roon thinks it's identified the album, so I'll have to look at those, but generally speaking in this area, I'm finding Roon is so much more powerful in terms of manual intervention if things do go wrong (although I still haven't been able to delete incorrect composers from one track, and have the changes actually reflect in the track listing/album despite multiple tries). I still find the distinction between Album Artist(s), Composers, Artists and Principle Artist(s) sometimes confusing in Classical works, though.

I don't find it's quite as fast as Sooloos in terms of scrolling through albums in Browse mode, although it is more graphically rich, so maybe that's just the price you pay? This is with core on the fastest computer I own (2013 MacBook Pro 15"/2.3Ghz i7/16GB RAM/500GB flash drive) so perhaps it's network latency, I should try it with the core on my wired network rather than wifi, I suppose.

In short, this is everything I thought Sooloos would be, and wasn't. So I'll be moving over to Roon now.

A couple of questions, if I may?

- Re: the advice to have a separate export of Sooloos library, can I export this to a different folder on my MC200 so I'm still getting use out of it? If so, is the procedure for this written up anywhere?

- When I perform this export, is there a way to filter out which tracks were ripped by Sooloos and which were just imported after a dBpa rip, because I still have all the dBpa rips on a hard drive anyway, and could just copy them across, which might save time?

I have some questions about which spec of computer to buy, as I can't run Roon on my work laptop indefinitely, but I think I'll post those over on the Roon forum as it's a little O/T here.


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#265947 - 2017-07-15 08:45 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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Sorry, one more question which is quite important to me -

I worked quite hard when ripping/importing to Sooloos, either natively or through dBpa, to make sure album art was as good as I could get it (even scanning album covers I couldn't find online at high res). I noticed that Roon seems to display inferior album covers it's found, seemingly ignoring mine. Is there a way to make it use my ones short of reloading the original cover file into each album individually? Or is this part of the export from Sooloos/Import to Roon process which I just have to get right?

Thanks!


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#265949 - 2017-07-15 09:07 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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You can choose to keep your own artwork.

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#265951 - 2017-07-15 09:52 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Ratbert]
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Brilliant. Thanks!


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#265953 - 2017-07-15 11:04 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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I just made the switch to Roon. If you're looking for a dedicated machine to run the core, I have had a great experience installing ROCK on a NUC. Plenty of feedback on the Roon forum.


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#265955 - 2017-07-15 11:06 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Dollar2]
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Roon vs. file metadata import preferences also have global settings.



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#265959 - 2017-07-15 12:50 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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Originally Posted By 3dit0r
pointing Roon at a couple of different folders with music in (including my music2 folder on my MC200) was joyfully easy and very fast to pick up and identify most of the albums.

Please note, this is not the advised procedure. It is advisable to do a full export from Sooloos, and then point Roon at that. It will have a better chance of identifying albums then. (I believe what you did - pointing directly at the Sooloos storage - works better now than it used to, but is still basically not optimised.)

Originally Posted By 3dit0r
In short, this is everything I thought Sooloos would be, and wasn't. So I'll be moving over to Roon now.

Glad it hit the spot for you.


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#265963 - 2017-07-15 15:30 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: VirusKiller]
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VirusKiller]Roon vs. file metadata import preferences also have global settings.[/quote]Thanks I'll take a look at those!


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#265964 - 2017-07-15 15:33 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Ludwig]
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Ludwig,

So far I think it's fabulous in its current form! I'm genuinely excited to get it all running properly.

Yes, will do an export and set everything up properly now, just wanted to get an idea of it all first.


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#265965 - 2017-07-15 15:35 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: Dollar2]
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Originally Posted By Dollar2
If you're looking for a dedicated machine to run the core, I have had a great experience installing ROCK on a NUC. Plenty of feedback on the Roon forum.
Thanks. Yeah Russ kindly had a chat with me earlier which was really helpful. I'm going to go for a NUC i7 and run ROCK I think!


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#265968 - 2017-07-15 16:23 Re: Is moving from Sooloos to Roon worth it? [Re: 3dit0r]
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Nice to chat James, as discussed a NUC7i5BNH would be fine for your needs although the NUC7i7BNH offers around 15% performance gain which may or may not prove relevant?

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