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#263710 - 2017-05-01 12:31 Re: Rasberry Pi3 with Explorer 2 as a Roon endpoint? [Re: gIzzE]
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Yes. 100%


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#264050 - 2017-05-09 03:32 Re: Rasberry Pi3 with Explorer 2 as a Roon endpoint? [Re: OldDogCan]
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Here's part of my post over at Audirvana's forum:

In interviews that MQA founder Bob Stuart gave to Computer Audiophile, The Absolute Sound and Stereophile, he said that encoded files could be "truncated" to 16-bit such that they would retain much of their benefit to a decoder over AirPlay. Two of the three reviewers for those publications actually tried 16/44 streamed files and reported that they were not as good as the 24-bit versions, but were authenticated at the DAC and sounded generally better than CD.

Obviously, the Red Book MQA CDs that are starting to appear would work with bit-perfect AirPlay. But I don't own any yet.

My question for A+ is whether or not this truncating process is possible within the program? In the meantime, I will attempt to identify the small number of 16/44 Master recordings available from TIDAL and play them to see what happens.


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#264346 - 2017-05-17 16:31 Re: Rasberry Pi3 with Explorer 2 as a Roon endpoint? [Re: OldDogCan]
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Now the answer from the A+ forum: While Bob Stuart seems able to deliver viable 16-bit files for decoded playback, others cannot. Damien (the developer) flatly states that MQA "can't be streamed without being truncated (and losing the useful MQA data) over Airplay".

Go figure.


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Also: 598DP, 568.2mm, 565, DSP5000.2s, Roon endpoints incl Allo USBridge, Explorer², iFi nano iDSD BL, Audeze LCD-X, AudioEngine spkrs, M&K sub, Apple MBP, OPPO BDP-83
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#265287 - 2017-06-16 13:31 Re: Rasberry Pi3 with Explorer 2 as a Roon endpoint? [Re: OldDogCan]
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Damien's assertion contradicts Bob Stuart's claim at Munich that a 16-bit option is built into each MQA file to allow use with AirPlay and Bluesound:


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#265292 - 2017-06-16 16:33 Re: Rasberry Pi3 with Explorer 2 as a Roon endpoint? [Re: OldDogCan]
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I don't think that Bob was claiming for a moment that you could stream over AirPlay and still decode. He was just saying that the top 16 bits would still play and play well.


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#265302 - 2017-06-17 00:52 Re: Rasberry Pi3 with Explorer 2 as a Roon endpoint? [Re: VirusKiller]
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You're right. I watched it again, and agree that he probably means "playable" over AirPlay, not decoded. I wanted to believe because there have been 16-bit files prepared for MQA unfolding and heard by reviewers -which he has talked about in past interviews as he did during these 40 minutes in Munich.


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#268506 - 2017-10-11 01:19 Re: Rasberry Pi3 with Explorer 2 as a Roon endpoint? [Re: OldDogCan]
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-Now I know that you can fully decode [16 bit MQA] over AirPlay because I'm doing just that with the CDs I bought from Chesky Records last weekend at the Denver audio show. There is such a thing as RedBook MQA after all.


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Also: 598DP, 568.2mm, 565, DSP5000.2s, Roon endpoints incl Allo USBridge, Explorer², iFi nano iDSD BL, Audeze LCD-X, AudioEngine spkrs, M&K sub, Apple MBP, OPPO BDP-83
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