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#264229 - 2017-05-14 11:11 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink
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Hi

I have been having issues with the Comms on my 218. I don't have an iPad nor a Sooloos or IR cable so I am left with SpeakerLink via a Reviver, controlled by an MSR as my only option.

Initially I had no success controlling the 218 via SpeakerLink. I adjusted cables (I have a combination on BNC and DIN comms.) without joy. I decided to change the default source on the 218 from Network to SpeakerLink and following a restart of the 218, bingo - I was able to control the 218 via the MSR.

I was able to press every source button on the MSR and carry on moving between sources as expected. I then went back to Aux (Roon/Network) and started to playing a track. Once the track started, I was unable to change sources again.

At this stage I would be jumping to a conclusion which is that the SpeakerLink comms only works when it is the default input, but then becomes disabled when the network takes the source. This is with limited troubleshooting though, as I haven't simplified my comms nor have I tried material from different sources e.g. DVD.

I will do more later, but would be useful to hear views and experiences.

Cheers
Tom



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#264235 - 2017-05-14 15:41 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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My thinking is that the 218 was intended to be controlled via IR or app/network.

I assumed that the SpeakerLink input is only to receive a SpeakerLink source and that once another source signal is in play, then there is no active Speakerlink connection to receive any comms. Just guessing though.

Did you actually play a signal through your other source connections before going back to network?


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#264236 - 2017-05-14 15:47 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: JobSeeker]
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Hi
I haven't tried another source before going back to Network. The manuals states the following:
Quote:
The Meridian 218 can be controlled using the following options:

Via Meridian Comms from another product such as a DSP loudspeaker.
Via the Ethernet connection using the Sooloos system.
Via the Ethernet connection using the 218 Automation Interface.
Via Infra Red, using the optional G12 remote IR sensor and either the MSR, MSR+, or AC200 remote controls.

For details of the Automation Interface and the IR control codes
see the Meridian website:


Cheers
Tom


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#264238 - 2017-05-14 15:54 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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Well that clearly implies it should be working I guess. Although maybe the implication is that such control would come back via the SpeakerLink 'out' rather than 'in'' as that would always have a signal link e.g. Receiving IR via DSPs with a display.

I can't test it in my set up unfortunately.


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#264239 - 2017-05-14 16:19 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: JobSeeker]
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That makes sense - Although I use the SpeakerLink out to send the audio to the 5200SEs which have BNC comms. Well worth a second check though.

Cheers
Tom


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#264241 - 2017-05-14 16:24 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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It seems you've got comms back via SpeakerLink in then, so I guess it should be working anyway unless you had it ticked as controller, rather than the speakers.


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#264243 - 2017-05-14 16:44 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: JobSeeker]
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I had it set to auto. I will set to "Not controller" and see if that helps.

Thanks
Tom


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#264245 - 2017-05-14 17:30 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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So it looks like I am not getting any audio through the SpeakerLink via Reviver signal. I need to go back to basics with my troubleshooting.

Just my luck that the delayed 218 delivery coincided with the weekend of a huge virus outbreak!

Cheers
Tom


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Kitchen: 561M, M33s, M1500, SBT, Chromecast
Office: A330i, G41, Explorer2,Velodyne CT120
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#264248 - 2017-05-14 17:45 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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Just been through a bit of that. Good luck.


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#264291 - 2017-05-15 22:57 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: JobSeeker]
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I have started my troubleshooting. I have removed the reviver from the setup and am experimenting by connecting the DSP front speakers on the G68 to the digital coax in on the 218.

I changed the deafault source on the 218 to TV Digital in (Coax) and restarted. The TV played through the 218 as it should. I then started Roon on my phone and played a track on the 218. This caused the TV source to be replaced by Roon without selecting the source. Should it do this?

I am going to try and nick an iPad to see if can change it back to TV without restarting the 218.

Would be great if someone could select a non network source on their 218 and then play a track through Roon to see if it grabs the source input.

Cheers
Tom


Main: G68J, 218 HD621, 3*5200s (2 SE L&R),DSW, 2* Reviver, 3200s,SBT, PS4, Amazon TV Fire, Dune Base 3.0, Xbox, NUC (Roon server & Kodi)
Kitchen: 561M, M33s, M1500, SBT, Chromecast
Office: A330i, G41, Explorer2,Velodyne CT120
F80s, M60s
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#264293 - 2017-05-16 04:35 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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I would have thought that behaviour would be normal. When on a different source on an 861, playing a track in Sooloos will switch the input to ID40 straight away.


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#264295 - 2017-05-16 06:39 Re: 218 Comms Issue with SpeakerLink [Re: GMT]
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That sounds right to me.


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