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#264157 - 2017-05-12 11:27 HD621 vs Explorer
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Bobfett Offline
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Hi,

I'm thinking of installing Roon on my Mac mini and store the FLAC music files on my (5 year old) QNAP.

I only have apodizing in the HD621, so which of the following will give the best audio quality?

1. Mac mini -> HD621 -> 568.2MM (with apodizing/ upsampling)
2. Mac mini -> Explorer 1 -> 568.2MM (via Toslink digital optical, no apodizing/ upsampling)

Thanks in advance for your help!

Regards,
Bob



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#264162 - 2017-05-12 13:09 Re: HD621 vs Explorer [Re: Bobfett]
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Roon will upsample any way you want it to, then you can send it to the Explorer as 176/192. That would be my choice.

(Can't say what Roon filter approximates most closely to Meridian's apodising, mind you. But someone else will be able to.)


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#264167 - 2017-05-12 16:06 Re: HD621 vs Explorer [Re: Bobfett]
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Hi Bob,

I would go the Explorer way as well. Roon is a very powerful program and you can set the Sample Rate Conversion to 96KHz (since 24bit / 96KHz is what the 568 can decode).

But if you have a toshlink and a HDMI cable you can try both and tell us your opinion.

Regards
George


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#264177 - 2017-05-13 00:43 Re: HD621 vs Explorer [Re: Sailor2004]
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HD621 handles 24/192KHz input on HDMI and downsamples to 24/96 for 568.2MM so this might not be so clearcut as you may think.

Use a recent HS 10/18Gbit certified good quality HDMI cable and tell us your results. cool


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#264183 - 2017-05-13 06:24 Re: HD621 vs Explorer [Re: Crion]
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I missed the bit about Toslink, sorry. But I'd still use the Explorer.


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#264191 - 2017-05-13 08:50 Re: HD621 vs Explorer [Re: Ludwig]
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If Roon eventually handles MQA decode/upsampling he can just set his Mac to HDMI audio 2ch 24/192 and skip the apodizing in HD621 and use the flavor he wants from Roon @24/192KHz.

Anyways, I'm interested in the results if you try this.


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#264192 - 2017-05-13 10:13 Re: HD621 vs Explorer [Re: Crion]
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For me, if I used Roon, my set-up would be...

Mac Mini > Network > MS200 > SpeakerLink > AC12 > G95.

I already have a ReadyNAS for system backup.


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#264194 - 2017-05-13 10:51 Re: HD621 vs Explorer [Re: spinaltap]
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Why not just go MS200 to G95 via optical?


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#264195 - 2017-05-13 11:23 Re: HD621 vs Explorer [Re: Ian]
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Comms, and Coax.

I already have the AC12.


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#264210 - 2017-05-13 15:53 Re: HD621 vs Explorer [Re: spinaltap]
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Ah yes, comms although for anyone else without an AC12, optical and comms only dongle would be a very cost effective method especially as anyone even with basic soldering skills and good eyesight could make one with for a few quid.


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#264220 - 2017-05-13 17:53 Re: HD621 vs Explorer [Re: Ian]
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I don't have good eyesight (far from it).


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#264567 - 2017-05-23 11:49 Re: HD621 vs Explorer [Re: spinaltap]
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Thanks for your help guys!
Will let you know the results.

Cheers,
Bob


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