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#263576 - 2017-04-25 21:14 Tidal MQA via Bluesound Node 2 via Reviver into DSP8000SE's
Steve M Offline
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Folks,

For a long time my son has run Sooloos in his bedroom via a MS200 to the D1 input of a pair of DSP6000's and a Sonos into D2. He just uses a Meridian remote to select either source. The Sonos also has a switchable analogue input which he runs his PlayStation 4 through, that is selectable in the Sonos App or Sonos remote. Essentially he has three sources into his 6000's.

That got me thinking about using a Bluesound Node 2 (US$499), which has a MQA approved hardware decoder in-built and a 192kHz/30bit DAC. It outputs Optical, SPDIF and analogue. Now I know if I connect a Reviver to the SPDIF output of the Node 2 and then via SpeakerLink into the 8000SE's, I won't have any comms but I also know that the On/Off button turns the speakers on or off regardless and D1 is the default input and whatever is feeding into it will be heard.

So my expectation is that the 8000SE's should be able to do the final unwrap of the highest quality 192kHz/24bit MQA music files.

Surely Bob wouldn't go to the trouble of giving the Node 2 MQA hardware decoder certification if the end product, being his flagship speaker couldn't reproduce the full MQA quality file in all its glory!

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Er yep !
See my post below.

Does anyone see a problem with this setup?

I will still eventually get a 218 but I can get rocking and rolling with a Bluesound Node 2 very quickly, and the Node 2 wouldn't go to waste being moved somewhere else in the house upon its replacement arrived.

Cheers,


Steve M


Edited by Steve M (2017-04-25 22:37)
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#263577 - 2017-04-25 21:19 Re: Tidal MQA via Bluesound Node 2 via Reviver into DSP8000SE's [Re: Steve M]
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The 218 is imminent, and would give you comms as well as analogue inputs.
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#263578 - 2017-04-25 21:20 Re: Tidal MQA via Bluesound Node 2 via Reviver into DSP8000SE's [Re: Steve M]
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Doesn't Oz have the first shipment of 218's in existence...?!
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#263579 - 2017-04-25 21:31 Re: Tidal MQA via Bluesound Node 2 via Reviver into DSP8000SE's [Re: Steve M]
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I don't think the Bluesound will output unfolded MQA through it's digital output like a 218 does. AFAIK only SpeakerLink can do that.

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#263583 - 2017-04-25 22:27 Re: Tidal MQA via Bluesound Node 2 via Reviver into DSP8000SE's [Re: DonRon]
Steve M Offline
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Hi DonRon,

You are right but you probably don't know why you are right !

This is straight off of the MQA web site;
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Step 1
MQA is an end-to-end process that starts by capturing every detail and nuance from the original master recording.

Unlike many audio-coding methods, no music is thrown away. All that’s removed is any ‘blurring’ caused during recording or digital encoding.

Step 2
The time-accurate musical detail captured by the MQA process is ‘folded’ into a form that looks just like a regular CD-quality file.

It can be streamed or downloaded via any lossless format such as FLAC, Apple Lossless or WAV. MQA is not a new format, but it carries additional ‘hidden’ detail in a unique way.

Step 3
MQA will be available across select streaming and download services. On conventional players without an MQA decoder, MQA will sound better than CD quality.

Step 4
To truly unlock the richness of MQA you’ll need a device or software with an MQA decoder. On playback of MQA content, the player indicates that you are hearing exactly what the artist recorded and approved in the studio.

Step 5
When you listen you'll step into the magic of the original performance. You're there.


Playback Partners
Experience MQA through our playback partners.

MQA Playback Partners
Bluesound are a certified MQA playback partner just like Meridian and a dozen other companies.

However, in my further research since the post, I found this very educational and interesting article on the Bluesound Node 2 and its MQA capabilities.

Bluesound Node 2 MQA Capabilities

The verdict, the Bluesound Node 2 is a great source for feeding fully unwrapped MQA files into analogue systems. It is NOT a solution for getting full MQA resolution unwrapped into a digital 192kHz/24bit Meridian system as explained in the article.

My ideal solution would be a MQA card to put into my 861v8, the only Reference Source in Meridian's line up without MQA capability. I have an ID41 and plenty of inputs so I would rather not have to put a little external box into the chain.

Begrudgingly I will have to buy the 218 and then use it elsewhere, if I ever get my wish granted for an 861 MQA card.

Hey I am very loyal to Meridian and my kit below hasn't been updated for a very long time!

Cheers,

Steve M
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