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#264373 - 2017-05-18 17:52 Re: Meridian 218 Zone Controller Announced! [Re: Toony]
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Having a 218 assumes that you are going to or already have Sooloos or Roon running and the 218 will be a streaming endpoint.


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Personal System #1 Theta Digital Cassablanca 4, 818v3, 218, DSP8000.2SE, DSP7200SEHC, Boston Acoustics Lynnfield 500L series 2, Monitor Audio Silver 10, ATI 200WX5 Amp, JVC RS15, Black Diamond Zero Edge screen. QNAP TS-251 3TB
Personal System #2 F80.

Crestron control and multi room audio via Meridian 258 amplifiers.
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#264375 - 2017-05-18 18:06 Re: Meridian 218 Zone Controller Announced! [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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I have a MC200 on same network. Just switched both 218 and MC200 on and ran Control:PC.

It sees them both and just went through 3 cycles of updating software and the Control:PC program itself.


G65, HD621, 5x DSP5200SE, MC200.
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#264378 - 2017-05-18 18:28 Re: Meridian 218 Zone Controller Announced! [Re: Rolski]
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Originally Posted By Rolski
Question - but the 218 accepts 192 through the network-in (streamed from Roon), correct ?
Of course not.

Edit: Well, Roon sees it as only 96/24-capable.


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Edited by VirusKiller; 2017-05-18 18:29.
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#264380 - 2017-05-18 18:35 Re: Meridian 218 Zone Controller Announced! [Re: VirusKiller]
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Joel,

And the only way the 8x8 pushes >96 out to SE speakers is with SL out using MQA, correct?

Ken


Main: G68J, 5K2s, 5Ks, HSU subs, Pio 151FD, Dish VP722, Roku, Wadia I70, Anti Mode Dual Core, Oppo 103D Vanity Lite
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#264382 - 2017-05-18 18:44 Re: Meridian 218 Zone Controller Announced! [Re: Kswanson]
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That's probably the case Ken, but I don't know how. I've not tried coax out into the SEs though, but I doubt that will work (for reasons I can't go into)!


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#264384 - 2017-05-18 18:55 Re: Meridian 218 Zone Controller Announced! [Re: VirusKiller]
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Why all the settings about room height. Subs. Treble base. Speaker position. This is all setup in my g65. Am i right in thinking for SL passthrough these settings are null and that they will only be added when i am streaming from MC200?


G65, HD621, 5x DSP5200SE, MC200.
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#264391 - 2017-05-18 20:06 Re: Meridian 218 Zone Controller Announced! [Re: AudioImages - Rick]
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Do not have 218 but have 808v6 and as previously posted have found a few solutions that I believe would also work with the 218 but none are perfect.. Currently I have retyped my 8000SE front speakers as COAX with front right master.. Then go SL master out of 808 into 8000SE right master.. SL out of 8000SE master to left 8000SE slave.. I like to listen to the CD and ID41 from the 808 so on the speaker set up those are identified as digital input 1 (SLS and CD)...

Now to the 861.. Front right/left SL master goes to an AC 12.. AC 12 Dig out goes to 8000SE front right dig in.. 8000SE front right dig out connects to 8000SE left dig in.. AC 12 master comms connects to 8000SE front right comms in via BNC.. AC 12 slave comms goes to 8000SE comms out.. All other sources TV, Bluray, SACD are set as digital input 2 on the 8000 front speakers..

Center channel and rear right and rear left are typed as RJ 45 slave and connect via SL to 861..

This allows for full 2 channel MQA and also for multichannel on all sources coming from 861..

There are a few glitches.. Volume syncs perfectly between all the speakers but does not match what is shown on the iPad, iPhone, Control Mac apps - believe it is because I have 808 and 861 both set as controller and startup volume may not be the same.. Also switching between the 808 ID 41 to the 861 ID 41 requires powering down the system and then re powering..

Wish there were a simpler solution and hopefully one will be provided..

If time allows this weekend I am going to try analog out of the 808 into the 861 so I can evaluate how full MQA analog out will sound coming out of the 861 for Trifield, room correction, bass management etc... Know it will no longer be an MQA signal leaving the 861 but it should be one going in.. Will report back on SQ..

Finally, I have found MQA sound to be quite dependant on the recording.. I almost always seem to hear more "content" from the fully unfolded MQA but have found several albums where the bass seems to be elevated.. As mentioned before I much prefer rebook for GD American Beauty and Warren Zevon Excitable Boy over MQA..

Lastly, it seems a shame that 2 channel MQA can not be routed through the 861 for room correction, much more significant bass management, etc.. Or a shame that the 808 does not have room correction and more advanced bass management...


Main System: 861v8, 808v6, 8000SE (l, r), 7200SE (c, rr, rl)
Living Room: 861v8, 7200SE (l, r), 5200SE (c, rr, lr)
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#264471 - 2017-05-19 21:42 Re: Meridian 218 Zone Controller Announced! [Re: Wints1]
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I have just got MQA running through 218. You can tell immediately that there is something different about the sound quality. More detail. More presence.

No sign of fabled blue light coming on the 5200SE speakers.

I can cycle through master speaker to see MQA 192k and then it sometimes flicks between that and MHR 48k without me pressing the display button. The slave just says 218 and cannot be display cycled.


G65, HD621, 5x DSP5200SE, MC200.
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#264473 - 2017-05-19 22:15 Re: Meridian 218 Zone Controller Announced! [Re: Toony]
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Listening to Fleetwood Mac - Dreams. The drum kit sounds so detailed. The symbols inparticular.

Some MQA is 44k. Some 88k. Coldplay was 192k.


G65, HD621, 5x DSP5200SE, MC200.
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#264479 - 2017-05-20 05:20 Re: Meridian 218 Zone Controller Announced! [Re: Toony]
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Originally Posted By Toony
I have just got MQA running through 218. You can tell immediately that there is something different about the sound quality. More detail. More presence.

No sign of fabled blue light coming on the 5200SE speakers.

I can cycle through master speaker to see MQA 192k and then it sometimes flicks between that and MHR 48k without me pressing the display button. The slave just says 218 and cannot be display cycled.


There is no blue light on the DSP5200SE's or any other SE's, you see MQA on the display.
The cycling between MQA and MHR if it is happening in the middle of a track playing is not right and needs investigation.

Russ


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Edited by Ratbert; 2017-05-20 05:21.
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#264480 - 2017-05-20 06:14 Re: Meridian 218 Zone Controller Announced! [Re: Toony]
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Originally Posted By Toony
I have just got MQA running through 218. You can tell immediately that there is something different about the sound quality. More detail. More presence.

No sign of fabled blue light coming on the 5200SE speakers.

I can cycle through master speaker to see MQA 192k and then it sometimes flicks between that and MHR 48k without me pressing the display button. The slave just says 218 and cannot be display cycled.


Check that your firmware is up to date on your 5200SEs. Put them in standby and press 'display ' on the remote. It should be 3.08:

https://www.meridian-audio.com/meridian-uploads/download/release_notes.html

Mine wasn't on my 7200SEs.


Winot
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#264489 - 2017-05-20 15:07 Re: Meridian 218 Zone Controller Announced! [Re: Winot]
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All firmware up to date.


G65, HD621, 5x DSP5200SE, MC200.
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