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#228303 - 2015-01-18 09:39 Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot
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My Explorer 2 was working with no problems, all I did was unplug the USB cable out then tried to use it.

No more power and it feels warm.

Only a week a old serial e200eb


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#228310 - 2015-01-18 16:22 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Jose_Howay]
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Hi,

Sorry to hear this.

I doubt there's much you can do with it, so I'd advise your supplier and ask for it to be replaced with a new one.

Regards,
Carl


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#228319 - 2015-01-18 20:47 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Carl]
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Exactly the same happened with mine. Returned it for a replacement (via Amazon) which has been working fine every day since.


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#228464 - 2015-01-21 18:54 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: shiggins]
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Same problem here.
Supplier (Russ Andrews) replaced it without issue.


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#228465 - 2015-01-21 18:59 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: DennisWaugh]
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Seems to be a higher failure rate than the Explorer 1's, or did nobody report in when they failed?

Russ


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#228497 - 2015-01-21 22:54 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Ratbert]
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Reported on here:

Explorer 1 failures = 0
Explorer 2 failures = 2

The Explorer 2 is infinitely more unreliable than 1.
OR
Statistically unsound (not enough sample data).

Regards,
Carl wink


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#228499 - 2015-01-21 23:28 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Carl]
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Let's hope you're right on the latter, Carl, otherwise it will become known as "Manufacturing Quality Awful"


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#228500 - 2015-01-21 23:32 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: dpstjp]
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Originally Posted By: dpstjp
Let's hope you're right on the latter, Carl, otherwise it will become known as "Manufacturing Quality Awful"

Only by people who are easily swayed by what they read on the internet. wink


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#228503 - 2015-01-21 23:59 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Carl]
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Originally Posted By: Carl
Reported on here:

Explorer 1 failures = 0
Explorer 2 failures = 2

The Explorer 2 is infinitely more unreliable than 1.
OR
Statistically unsound (not enough sample data).

Regards,
Carl wink


I make it 3 if I count the posts on this page, still an unrepresentative sample I agree, but interesting nonetheless.

Russ


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#228504 - 2015-01-22 00:03 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Ludwig]
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Originally Posted By: Ludwig
Only by people who are easily swayed by what they read on the internet. wink
That would explain why "most people think DSD sounds better". You get a lot of that on the Internet.


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#228505 - 2015-01-22 00:06 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: dpstjp]
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The issue is of course that the population that have no issue do not post about it. Something about 'O-level sets theory' is forcing it's way into my head...


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#228506 - 2015-01-22 00:13 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: ncpl]
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If it helps the statistics, I stepped on my Explorer1 hard enough for there to be a crunching sound, and it still works perfectly. crazy


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#228507 - 2015-01-22 00:14 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Ludwig]
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smile

Russ


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#228511 - 2015-01-22 01:05 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Ludwig]
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Originally Posted By: Ludwig
If it helps the statistics, I stepped on my Explorer1 hard enough for there to be a crunching sound, and it still works perfectly. crazy
You've been reading all the internet posts about boot loaders haven't you? Don't want to tell you this but thats not what they meant.


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#228516 - 2015-01-22 01:41 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Ludwig]
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Glad to hear your Explorer is OK!

How are your Metatarsus?

Can you still press the loud pedal on the Steinway? wink

Hector


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#228523 - 2015-01-22 10:06 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Hector]
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Well my supplier should receive it back tomorrow, hopefully I will get my replacement soon.


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#247391 - 2016-02-25 02:50 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Jose_Howay]
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Mine just failed, less than a month old. Amazon return accepted. There were two others in the Amazon comments with the same issue. Should I buy this locally or try Amazon again?


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#247393 - 2016-02-25 09:12 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Bill Digges]
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My replacement from Amazon is still working well. Get's used every day in the office. Even has the blue MQA light laugh


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#247442 - 2016-02-26 18:40 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: shiggins]
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I recommend to not simply unplug the Explore (2) if it is still on power. The best means to disconnect it from your PC is to shut down your computer and disconnect it afterwards.
I have always done so and until now I have never had issues, neither with an Explorer1, nor with the 2.

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#256161 - 2016-12-18 15:12 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Buellerich]
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This is awkward, but I have borrowed an Explorer 2 from a friend. It was working lovely with QNAP and Roon.

I went to it just now and it's dead. No Lights but still warm to touch.
I hope he has some warranty.

Any idea's? Chris


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#256165 - 2016-12-18 17:01 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Sorry for your troubles but all Explorer 2's should still be under warranty.


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#256166 - 2016-12-18 17:33 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: CMB Integrations - Bruce]
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Thanks for that, I'll make the call to my friend with the news.


No 18 in the Hall of fame smile I have simple tastes; I am content to settle for the best: GIK monster bass panels, rear wall.
MC200 500GB, QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into 2 MS200's. Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2 and Mini. 596 v1.89.2, 518, G61R, M60.2 Rosewood, M33C, M33 Rears, M1500 Sub, Foxsat HD, Sony Blu Ray, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos.
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#256177 - 2016-12-19 16:15 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Originally Posted By ChrisLayerUK
Thanks for that, I'll make the call to my friend with the news.
That's MY Explorer 2! shocked
Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
but all Explorer 2's should still be under warranty.
I hope so. I'll contact Rick as it came from Audio Images.

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#256179 - 2016-12-19 17:08 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Originally Posted By ChrisLayerUK
Thanks for that, I'll make the call to my friend with the news.

He was his friend. whistle


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#256180 - 2016-12-19 17:25 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: spinaltap]
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Oops !!!!!


No 18 in the Hall of fame smile I have simple tastes; I am content to settle for the best: GIK monster bass panels, rear wall.
MC200 500GB, QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into 2 MS200's. Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2 and Mini. 596 v1.89.2, 518, G61R, M60.2 Rosewood, M33C, M33 Rears, M1500 Sub, Foxsat HD, Sony Blu Ray, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos.
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#256271 - 2016-12-23 13:15 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Drongo]
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Originally Posted By Drongo
Originally Posted By ChrisLayerUK
Thanks for that, I'll make the call to my friend with the news.
That's MY Explorer 2! shocked
Originally Posted By CMB Integrations - Bruce
but all Explorer 2's should still be under warranty.
I hope so. I'll contact Rick as it came from Audio Images.


I posted my Explorer2 to Rick at Audio Images on Wednesday.

Yesterday; I got a message from Rick to say that he had received the Explorer2; tested it and confirmed that it was faulty.

Today I have just received a brand new replacement Explorer2!

What great service from both Rick and Meridian! smile

Thank you both very much.

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#256277 - 2016-12-23 14:26 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: Drongo]
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Of course the service from me was rubbish.... Lol
So glad this was sorted with exceptional customer service.

Happy Christmas all, Chris smile


No 18 in the Hall of fame smile I have simple tastes; I am content to settle for the best: GIK monster bass panels, rear wall.
MC200 500GB, QNAP TVS 471i3. Roon into 2 MS200's. Explorer 2. Bluesound Pulse 2 and Mini. 596 v1.89.2, 518, G61R, M60.2 Rosewood, M33C, M33 Rears, M1500 Sub, Foxsat HD, Sony Blu Ray, Pioneer 5090, 2 Chromecast's for LRB videos.
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#264277 - 2017-05-15 17:09 Re: Explorer 2 not showing power light but hot [Re: ChrisLayerUK]
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Hi, My Explorer 2 also just went last week after I unplugged it. No power light but still running warm. Not recognised on USB port. Tried several computers that I had it running on before but no joy. Such a pity as I guess it is now out of warranty. When it wass working it sounds so brilliant listening with my Grado GS1000's.

Hope they fix this problem. I am reluctant to purchase another one given it does not appear to be an isolated problem.
Mike Bell

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