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#239273 - 2015-08-26 20:23 Re: New tweeters **** [Re: Big T]
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Originally Posted By Big T
Report back when you have tried them out, will be interesting to see what differences you find!
I got new 7200.2 tweeters installed today so far they sounded louder a little less detail at first compared to my H1212 Seas replacements.

I only got a few minutes to play with them. I raised the volume a little higher, then they started to sound a little more detailed So is there a break in period for black dome tweeters?

Update: tweeters are starting to warm up now .




861v4 LPSU, DSP6000 (D6000 originally)upgraded 96/24 with H1212 tweeters, DSP5500HC with Excel tweeter 96/24, M33 rear speakers, Explorer 1 to 861v4-Toslink Roon/Tidal. Oppo BDP80 via IA45 card.
Edited by Jose_Howay; 2015-08-27 15:13.
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#239380 - 2015-08-30 23:19 Re: New tweeters [Re: Jose_Howay]
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I'm interested in hearing how these 7200.2 ones go after ahwile as I'm wanting to change my tweeters very soon in my 6K's


Theatre Room: Sony 4K VW500ES, 861v8+ID41, HD621, DSP6000's, DSP5000C, DSP5000's, Oppo 205, Sat STB, XBox One S, Middle Atlantic Rack. Stewart Cinemascope Screen, QNAP TVS 1271U-RP (96TB) with Sooloos/Roon core pkg.

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#239382 - 2015-08-31 00:58 Re: New tweeters [Re: Craig]
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I've had those tweeters in my 6Ks for the last couple of years and they sound terrific.

Ken


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Office: SBT, Audience 2+2v2, Heed, JL e110, Dual Core, 218, Roon.
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#239383 - 2015-08-31 01:10 Re: New tweeters [Re: Kswanson]
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Ken,
Thanks. I will have to get a couple then.


Theatre Room: Sony 4K VW500ES, 861v8+ID41, HD621, DSP6000's, DSP5000C, DSP5000's, Oppo 205, Sat STB, XBox One S, Middle Atlantic Rack. Stewart Cinemascope Screen, QNAP TVS 1271U-RP (96TB) with Sooloos/Roon core pkg.

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#242071 - 2015-10-28 11:10 Re: New tweeters [Re: Big T]
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Originally Posted By Big T
sounds like the tweeters are stuck in place by the gaskets, you will need to use something like a larger Allen key in one of the screw holes and lever it gently toward the centre, it will give eventually. Don't undo the torx screws under the grill as this holds the front plate to the magnet!

The 1212 units are not a drop in replacement and will require some surgery to the cabinet!

Best IMHO to replace like for like and save yourself the bother!

Also don't cut the cables as you don't have much to play with, best unsolder.

If you want I can take a look at the tweeters, if they are not too far gone I can have them back as new for very little!

If the speakers are old then it's also time to look at getting the amp section recapped.


Thanks!

I did the surgery, and I think I probably agree with you, in hindsight, that I should have just plunked the money on new originals. It was hard work, and the sound is definitely a little different. But, still, much more clarity and sparkle.

Still not much air. But then, I'm running 18 bits and they're pretty close to the back walls.

And who needs air when you can have that kind of timpani roll...

d.


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#243560 - 2015-12-05 08:09 Re: New tweeters [Re: Jose_Howay]
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Originally Posted By Jose_Howay
Originally Posted By Big T
Report back when you have tried them out, will be interesting to see what differences you find!
I got new 7200.2 tweeters installed today so far they sounded louder a little less detail at first compared to my H1212 Seas replacements.

I only got a few minutes to play with them. I raised the volume a little higher, then they started to sound a little more detailed So is there a break in period for black dome tweeters?

Update: tweeters are starting to warm up now .


Presumably, as you are now selling your tweeters, this modification did not work out?


Meridian owner since 1992
DSP5000 96/24, MC200, Prime & PSU, Focal Elear, Explorer 1 & 2, F80, 200/203 and various Sonos.
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#243571 - 2015-12-05 15:23 Re: New tweeters [Re: Ian]
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I am selling them because I believe they do not electronically match. I found out they are 4 Ohm . The 7200.2 are definitely louder. I stuck with the h1212 which have more air in my DSP6000 and DSP5000.


861v4 LPSU, DSP6000 (D6000 originally)upgraded 96/24 with H1212 tweeters, DSP5500HC with Excel tweeter 96/24, M33 rear speakers, Explorer 1 to 861v4-Toslink Roon/Tidal. Oppo BDP80 via IA45 card.
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#243578 - 2015-12-05 19:56 Re: New tweeters [Re: Jose_Howay]
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Did you try the little known service "Calibrate Mode" available in some DSP speakers to adjust speaker response?


Meridian owner since 1992
DSP5000 96/24, MC200, Prime & PSU, Focal Elear, Explorer 1 & 2, F80, 200/203 and various Sonos.
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#243595 - 2015-12-06 01:17 Re: New tweeters [Re: Ian]
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I've heard the Seas Excel tweeters with 6000s- they sounded very nice. It was a suggestion from another Hitchhiker on here- cannot remember the thread.


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#243600 - 2015-12-06 09:06 Re: New tweeters [Re: Ian]
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I understood the black dome tweeters to be a direct replacement for the legacy silver dome tweeter eg in a DSP5000.

If that is the case should the calibrate mode be needed?

If they do need to be re-calibrated how is this achieved and has anyone who has changed tweeters on any model done this?


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#243630 - 2015-12-06 14:58 Re: New tweeters [Re: Tarik]
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When the black dome tweeters came out, I had just gotten my Sooloos stuff and a used DSP5500 for the center channel. I decided to buy new tweeters all around, as my Dealer in Jacksonville offered to get them for me at his cost.

I scheduled Marc Koval to come and install the tweeters, set up Sooloos and tweak my system. Marc asked why I got new tweeters. I told him I thought they would be somewhat unbalanced in their output, as the speakers were sourced at three different times and were on average 10+ years old. He explained that is what calibration mode is about (see Ian's post above).

In response to your question, I assume (did not do this myself) the activity is accessed from the configuration/setup programs. Someone with more detailed knowledge will probably expand on what I have said here.


James
NC1: 861v4+ID40, 218, MS200 (to outdoors), DSP8000SE (upgraded). 5500VC, 5500s, Hsu Research ULS15x2, DirecTV, Oppo BD103, QNAP251, Roon
NC2-see FL 2 with Triad Silver Speakers

FL1: G61R, 218, DSP8000SEs, 5500HC, DSP6000s, MS600, DirecTv, Oppo BD103, QNAP469, Roon
FL2: Marantz 7005, M60s, M60C, M33s, Oppo BDP-93, MS200, Roon
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#261984 - 2017-03-23 17:32 Re: New tweeters [Re: Rodney Gold]
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I'm confused.

I ordered two SEAS H519 25TFFC NEW 2015 Manufacture tweeters as replacements for my D6000s.

Fitted one, turned the speakers on and got no sound from the speaker with the new tweeter. The other speaker with the original tweeter worked fine.

I have put the original tweeter back and both speakers are working normally.

My first thought was that the impedance of the new tweeters I have bought is 6 ohms, whereas I believe the originals were 4 ohms. However, I believe the Millennium Excels that several people have used is also 6 ohms.

Is the impedance the problem, or what else could the problem be?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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